Dynomotion

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2677 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/10/2011
Subject: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
ray.
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2678 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/10/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
 
If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
 
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2679 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/10/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
>  
> If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
>  
> http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> ray.
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2682 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
 
We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated for 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2685 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
>  
> We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated for 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> >  
> > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> >  
> > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > ray.
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2686 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
 
It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to tune.  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see exactly what is going on.   You should start off with low settings for Max Output Current until things are working properly.  You will be required to create or modify some Initialization and Homing Programs for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
 
Hope this answers some of your questions.
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2688 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
Ray.


--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
>  
> It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to tune.  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see exactly what is going on.   You should start off with low settings for Max Output Current until things are working properly.  You will be required to create or modify some Initialization and Homing Programs
> for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
>  
> Hope this answers some of your questions.
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> >  
> > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated for 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > >  
> > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > >  
> > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > ray.
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2689 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
 
And some patience to get it all working :}
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2695 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
2 Snap amps
1 Kanalog
1 Kflop
Ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
>  
> And some patience to get it all working :}
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> Ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> >  
> > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to tune.  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see exactly what is going on.   You should start off with low settings for Max Output Current until things are working properly.  You will be required to create or modify some Initialization and
> Homing Programs
> > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> >  
> > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > >  
> > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated for 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > ray.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2696 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
 
Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2699 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
Ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
>  
> Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> 2 Snap amps
> 1 Kanalog
> 1 Kflop
> Ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> >  
> > And some patience to get it all working :}
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > Ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > >  
> > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to tune.  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see exactly what is going on.   You should start off with low settings for Max Output Current until things are working properly.  You will be required to
> create or modify some Initialization and
> > Homing Programs
> > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > >  
> > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > > ray.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2700 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
 
Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
 
 
And KFLOP has a 26 pin
 
 
They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
 
 
You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
 
Regards
TK
 
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2701 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
VFD.
ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
>  
> Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
>  
> http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x25.php
>  
> And KFLOP has a 26 pin
>  
> http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x13.php
>  
> They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
>  
> http://www.winford.com/products/rly104.php
>  
> You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>  
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:36 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
> Ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
> >  
> > Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > 2 Snap amps
> > 1 Kanalog
> > 1 Kflop
> > Ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> > >  
> > > And some patience to get it all working :}
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > > Ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.ÃÆ'‚  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.ÃÆ'‚  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).ÃÆ'‚  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.ÃÆ'‚  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to tune.ÃÆ'‚  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see exactly what is going on.ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚  You should start off with low settings for Max
> Output Current until things are working properly.ÃÆ'‚  You will be required to
> > create or modify some Initialization and
> > > Homing Programs
> > > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > > ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > > ray.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > TK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > > > ray.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2702 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/11/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
There are many kinds of VFDs.  What kind is it and what kind of inputs does it accept?
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2706 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/12/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Mitsubishi 0-10v analog.
With my other system using DSPMC vital systems I set up the backlash etc in the motion software and not Mach3, is yours the same?
ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> There are many kinds of VFDs.  What kind is it and what kind of inputs does it accept?
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> VFD.
> ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
> >  
> > Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
> >  
> > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x25.php
> >  
> > And KFLOP has a 26 pin
> >  
> > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x13.php
> >  
> > They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
> >  
> > http://www.winford.com/products/rly104.php
> >  
> > You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >  
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:36 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
> > Ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
> > >  
> > > Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > 2 Snap amps
> > > 1 Kanalog
> > > 1 Kflop
> > > Ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > And some patience to get it all working :}
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > > > Ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to tune.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see
> exactly what is going on.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  You should start off with low settings for Max
> > Output Current until things are working properly.ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  You will be required to
> > > create or modify some Initialization and
> > > > Homing Programs
> > > > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > > > ray.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > TK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > > > ray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2707 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/12/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
Does it need isolation?
 
Yes we have backlash compensation in KFLOP.
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2708 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/12/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Sorry I don't know what you mean, isolation.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> Does it need isolation?
>  
> Yes we have backlash compensation in KFLOP.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:55 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> Mitsubishi 0-10v analog.
> With my other system using DSPMC vital systems I set up the backlash etc in the motion software and not Mach3, is yours the same?
> ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > There are many kinds of VFDs.  What kind is it and what kind of inputs does it accept?
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > VFD.
> > ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
> > >  
> > > Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
> > >  
> > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x25.php
> > >  
> > > And KFLOP has a 26 pin
> > >  
> > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x13.php
> > >  
> > > They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
> > >  
> > > http://www.winford.com/products/rly104.php
> > >  
> > > You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >  
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:36 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
> > > Ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > 2 Snap amps
> > > > 1 Kanalog
> > > > 1 Kflop
> > > > Ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > And some patience to get it all working :}
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > > > > Ray.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to
> tune.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see
> > exactly what is going on.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  You should start off with low settings for Max
> > > Output Current until things are working properly.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  You will be required to
> > > > create or modify some Initialization and
> > > > > Homing Programs
> > > > > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > TK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > > > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > > > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > > > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > > > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > > > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > > > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > > > > ray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2709 From: TK Date: 12/12/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Optical isolation. Our Kanalog has 0-10V analog outputs that could be used for speed control unless your VFD input needs a signal isolated from ground. If so there are 3rd party boards that can convert a KFLOP step/dir or PWM signal to an isolated analog signal. 

TK

On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:00 PM, "ray.roberts78" <rayrob@...> wrote:

 

Sorry I don't know what you mean, isolation.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> Does it need isolation?
>  
> Yes we have backlash compensation in KFLOP.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:55 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> Mitsubishi 0-10v analog.
> With my other system using DSPMC vital systems I set up the backlash etc in the motion software and not Mach3, is yours the same?
> ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ray,
> >  
> > There are many kinds of VFDs.  What kind is it and what kind of inputs does it accept?
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >
> > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> >
> >
> >  
> > VFD.
> > ray.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > >  
> > > Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
> > >  
> > > Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
> > >  
> > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x25.php
> > >  
> > > And KFLOP has a 26 pin
> > >  
> > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x13.php
> > >  
> > > They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
> > >  
> > > http://www.winford.com/products/rly104.php
> > >  
> > > You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >  
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:36 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
> > > Ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > 2 Snap amps
> > > > 1 Kanalog
> > > > 1 Kflop
> > > > Ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > And some patience to get it all working :}
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > > > > Ray.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to
> tune.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see
> > exactly what is going on.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  You should start off with low settings for Max
> > > Output Current until things are working properly.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  You will be required to
> > > > create or modify some Initialization and
> > > > > Homing Programs
> > > > > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > TK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > > > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > > > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > > > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > > > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > > > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > > > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > > > > ray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 
> > > > > > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2713 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/13/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Thanks Tk, Do you have any dealers in Canada I can buy from?
Ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Optical isolation. Our Kanalog has 0-10V analog outputs that could be used for speed control unless your VFD input needs a signal isolated from ground. If so there are 3rd party boards that can convert a KFLOP step/dir or PWM signal to an isolated analog signal.
>
> TK
>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:00 PM, "ray.roberts78" <rayrob@...> wrote:
>
> > Sorry I don't know what you mean, isolation.
> >
> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > Â
> > > Does it need isolation?
> > > Â
> > > Yes we have backlash compensation in KFLOP.
> > > Â
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >
> > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:55 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Mitsubishi 0-10v analog.
> > > With my other system using DSPMC vital systems I set up the backlash etc in the motion software and not Mach3, is yours the same?
> > > ray.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > There are many kinds of VFDs. What kind is it and what kind of inputs does it accept?
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > VFD.
> > > > ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x25.php
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > And KFLOP has a 26 pin
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x13.php
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > http://www.winford.com/products/rly104.php
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
> > > > > Ray.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > TK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > 2 Snap amps
> > > > > > 1 Kanalog
> > > > > > 1 Kflop
> > > > > > Ray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > And some patience to get it all working :}
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > > > > > > Ray.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Brushless is a bit more complex as several more parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ PID tuning can be difficult for some and SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to
> > > tune.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see
> > > > exactly what is going on.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ You should start off with low settings for Max
> > > > > Output Current until things are working properly.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ You will be required to
> > > > > > create or modify some Initialization and
> > > > > > > Homing Programs
> > > > > > > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > > > > > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > > > > > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > > > > > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > > > > > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > > > > > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > > > > > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ
> > > > > > > > > > I have Fanuc motors with inc, encoders, the drives take 180 vac. What would I need to buy so I can run my analog +-10vdc drivea ans brussless ac motors.
> > > > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> >
>
Group: DynoMotion Message: 2714 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/13/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
No.  We offer flat rate shipping/Handling/Insurance for $30 vis USPS Express International.
 
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 2715 From: ray.roberts78 Date: 12/14/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Ok the shipping sounds great. So by using your drives I don't need the Kanalog, so my AC servo motors would be run like step/direction?
Ray.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>  
> No.  We offer flat rate shipping/Handling/Insurance for $30 vis USPS Express International.
>  
> Regards
> TK
>
> From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:58 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
>
>
>  
> Thanks Tk, Do you have any dealers in Canada I can buy from?
> Ray.
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Optical isolation. Our Kanalog has 0-10V analog outputs that could be used for speed control unless your VFD input needs a signal isolated from ground. If so there are 3rd party boards that can convert a KFLOP step/dir or PWM signal to an isolated analog signal.
> >
> > TK
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:00 PM, "ray.roberts78" <rayrob@> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry I don't know what you mean, isolation.
> > >
> > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > Â
> > > > Does it need isolation?
> > > > Â
> > > > Yes we have backlash compensation in KFLOP.
> > > > Â
> > > > Regards
> > > > TK
> > > >
> > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:55 PM
> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > Mitsubishi 0-10v analog.
> > > > With my other system using DSPMC vital systems I set up the backlash etc in the motion software and not Mach3, is yours the same?
> > > > ray.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > There are many kinds of VFDs.ÃÆ'‚Â What kind is it and what kind of inputs does it accept?
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > TK
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:58 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > VFD.
> > > > > ray.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > Winford sells basic breakouts for Ribbon cable.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > Each SnapAmp has a 50 Pin connector:
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x25.php
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > And KFLOP has a 26 pin
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > http://www.winford.com/products/brk2x13.php
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > They also have Relay output Boards that can be driven with 3.3V signals
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > http://www.winford.com/products/rly104.php
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > You didn't mention what type of spindle control you have.
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > TK
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:36 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > What break out boards do you recommend for your system?
> > > > > > Ray.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > You may not need the Kanalog unless the extra IO will come in handy.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > Each SnapAmp has 8 opto inputs, 8 differential inputs (enough for two sets of A/B/Z), and 14 3.3V GPIO.
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:31 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > 2 Snap amps
> > > > > > > 1 Kanalog
> > > > > > > 1 Kflop
> > > > > > > Ray.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > In this case you will need 2 SnapAmps.
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > And some patience to get it all working :}
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:13 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > My motors are brussless Ac with Diff, encoders.
> > > > > > > > Ray.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > It looks like SnapAmp would probably work for you.
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > It isn't clear to me if your motors are brushless or brush motors.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ SnapAmp can drive both types but for brushless one SnapAmp can only drive two motors rather than four.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Brushless is a bit more complex as several more
> parameters need to be configured to do the commutation (invDistPerCycle and CommutationOffset).ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ We have an AutoPhaseFind.c program that will help identify the parameters for a brushless motor.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ PID tuning can be difficult for some and
> SnapAmp is controlling motor torque (acceleration) rather than velocity which is a more difficult type of servo to
> > > > tune.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ I think we have some of the best tuning diagnostics especially for SnapAmp where you can see Command, Position, Output, Currents, and Supply voltage all in real time to see
> > > > > exactly what is going on.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ You should start off with low settings for Max
> > > > > > Output Current until things are working properly.ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ You will be required to
> > > > > > > create or modify some Initialization and
> > > > > > > > Homing Programs
> > > > > > > > > for your system but nothing "fancy" :}
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > Hope this answers some of your questions.
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:19 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > Sorry, i should have said Snapamp. Actually, I think my motors say 125v, I know the drive input 180v.
> > > > > > > > > I do have another mill with 80v drives and motors, Glenteck.
> > > > > > > > > Milltronics with a SX 386 a bit old but it works great at the moment.
> > > > > > > > > If I use Dynomotion do I have to do any fancy programming?
> > > > > > > > > The PID tuning with the Vital unit was a pain, the basic setting they gave me made my motor jump off the bench and broke the encoder right off the end, I did get itto work in the end.
> > > > > > > > > My motors show 140v. Cont, torque 6.5Nm, 6.5 amps 3000rpm.
> > > > > > > > > I think they would work, it's knee mill and not looking for super high rapids.
> > > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > No Kanalog is not a drive it just has +/-10V analog outputs.
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > We have a SnapAmp that cna drive brush/brushless motors upto 1KW in size but it is limited to an 80V supply and it seems your motors are rated forÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 180V so the max speed would be significantly limited.
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 10:21 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > Don't have any drives that I can use, I thought your Kanolog was a drive?
> > > > > > > > > > ray.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray,
> > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â
> 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > > I understand you already have servo drives and motors where the drives can accept a +/-10V analog velocity command?
> > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â
> 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > > If so our KFLOP+Kanalog boards were designed speciffically for this scenario.
> > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â
> 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > > http://dynomotion.com/Kanalog.html
> > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â
> 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > TK
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ray.roberts78 <rayrob@>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:57 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 2716 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 12/14/2011
Subject: Re: Does Dynomotion use +- 10volts
Hi Ray,
 
Like stated before Kanalog is not necessary unless you need the extra IO and a 0-10V DAC (non isolated) to drive your VFD.  If you do not include the Kanalog you will need some 3rd party PWM or Step/Dir to Analog converter,
 
SnapAmps actually do not use step/dir.  It works more like an analog servo without the analog but also including brushless commutation.  KFLOP compares the actual Encoder Position with the desired position (we call it destination) to obtain an error . The error then passed through the PID, Filters, and such to obtain a desired Output to the motor.  The current encoder position is also used to determine how the brushless motor commutation should be handled which involves distributing the desired output to the 3 motor phases.  These values are then passed digitally to SnapAmp who then PWMs the motor coils according to those values.
 
Regards
TK